Comments on: Milestones of Humanity: Women in the Qur’an (Part 1)

By: Dena al-Atassi

Dena al-Atassi — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:25:25 +0000

Bismillahil Rahmaanil Raheem, I just wanted to make a really brief comment. Allah swt makes a point in Surat al-Kahf not to argue about things that have no benefit, so the points brought up of men vs women should not be discussed in great detail or even paid attention to. The fact of the matter is simple: we all, as Muslims, follow the Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammad (asws). At the time of our wonderful Prophet asws, he delegated the task of teaching women to sitnah Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) and she would only approach the Prophet Mohammad asws for help when she could not answer a question herself. So it is Sunnah for Muslim women to learn particularly from the examples of other women in history and to follow their examples. To vocalize any further speculation, comparisons, or personal opinions without religious edification and legitimate qualifications is risking violating the boundaries of Allah swt, and we should all be wary of this.

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By: Peace Lover

Peace Lover — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:11:12 +0000

Jazakumallahu khairaa sr.amatullah

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By: Amatullah

Amatullah — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:43:42 +0000

wa alaykum salam wa rahmatullah, Yes, majority of the scholars say that those two women are the daughters of Shu'ayb alayhi salaam, but there is no definite proof in the Qur'an or Sunnah (that I know of) that mentions they are his daughters. I believe you are referring to Khawlah bint Tha'labah radi Allahu anha from surah Mujadilah. Allah knows best.

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By: Peace Lover

Peace Lover — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:04:51 +0000

Assalamualykum sister , Mashaallah.I was just pondering upon the word “Ulil Albaab” .May Allah guide us to straight path. I have a question ,"Who are the daughters of Shu’ayb alayhi salaam ? "Are you talking about the girls who gave water to Musa alahiassalam and took him to their dad`s home where Musa alahiassalam worked as a shepherd for some years and later got married to one of the girls.Are you talking about Prophet shu'yab alayhisalaam? The other lady I love who was mentioned in the Quran in surah Muzadilah.Mashaallah she had a doubt and she approached our beloved prophet sallalahu alahi wassalam and Allah send a verse..Mashaallah. Assalamualykum.

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By: Omar

Omar — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:37:07 +0000

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By: WM

WM — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:51:36 +0000

And the word footnote was used with reference to the *narratives* of these women, not the women themselves. I was talking about texts and their portrayal of women, rather than women themselves, and 'footnote' is quite obviously a 'textual' term. But an insincere person with little regard for any opinion but their own will always find a way of distorting the words of others.

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By: WM

WM — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:48:33 +0000

You misunderstood the use of 'footnote'. Since Prophets are better than 'mere' awliya, it makes sense to say that Maryam (as) is less than Sayyidna `Isa (`alayhi's salam), just as it makes sense to say that Asiya (as) was inferior to Sayyidna Musa (`alayhi's salam), and so on. If you find that disrespectful, you'll have to disregard the countless statements made in books of creed by scholars discussing the respective merits of various sahaba and prophets, `alayhum us-salam.

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By: Amatullah

Amatullah — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:35:24 +0000

WM: I stand by my statement that using the term "footnote" to refer to the likes of Maryam, Umm Musa, Queen of Saba, is disrespect. You could have used a better word to describe their connection with the Prophets. Allah ta'ala honorably raised these women in the Qur'an, something no man can have today - so who are you to refer to them as something that denotes a low status? Secondly, I did not accuse you of ignorance. If you read my comment, I did not say YOU lack knowledge, I said WE.*We*, including myself, do not have sufficient knowledge of the righteous women in our Deen. This series is about women in the Qur'an and what we can learn from them because there is a lack of this information out there. We love the Prophets and Messengers of Allah salawatullahi wa salaamuhu alayhim, and you can learn about them through many books, lectures and classes. The goal here is to make a resource available about the women in the Qur'an - righteous and disbelieving. We ask Allah ta'ala to grant us tawfeeq in this, Ameen. Finally, I've seen many of the comments you leave on MuslimahSource, and I'm not surprised with your comments here so my dear brother I will not go back and forth with you. I ask Allah to guide us all to good speech and actions. Ameen.

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By: WM

WM — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:09:22 +0000

First you accuse me of disrespect, and then of ignorance. Figures like Maryam (as) are outstanding because of their rarity- 'many men attained perfection'- the number of women who did so being decidedly smaller. What I'm trying to suggest is that such women are singled out largely because of the influence they had on the lives of particular men (usually in the capacity of wife or mother-figure). I don't consider this demeaning, and I don't feel that it's a particularly outrageous inference to draw from the Qur'an. Being a dutiful wife, or a caring mother, contrary to what some believe, is actually the most spiritually fulfilling thing a woman can be- being the thing most rewarded by God. And I think that's one lesson- among many others- that we can learn from the good women mentioned in the Qur'an and various ahadith on the subject.