Comments on: My Sanctuary http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/ Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:48:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: JustKeepinItReal http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/#comment-11536 JustKeepinItReal Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:47:26 +0000 http://www.muslimahsource.org/?p=806#comment-11536 People...I dont think the article was pin-pointed toward any gender as it is not a gender-biased topic the author was discussing. A beautifully written article. Making generalizations about all women or men is not the way...especially those individuals of your own Muslim ummah. Of course the ideas and opinions expressed on this form are a healthy way of discussion and communication but demeaning ur muslim sisters or brothers is no way. The Holy Prophet SAW was gentle in his manner with the women and his humbleness and piety knew no bounds when it came to the women, and not only to the women of his household. So by disregarding the believing women and stereotyping them...you are disregarding your mothers who bear you, your wives, your sisters, and other honorable sisters of your own ummah. Do not judge all women as being the same, and vice versa it implies for the sisters as well regarding their fathers, brothers, sons, husbands, and other pious men of their ummah. Nice article about human beings in general and the persisting need to turn toward Allah (swt)<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-11536">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> People…I dont think the article was pin-pointed toward any gender as it is not a gender-biased topic the author was discussing. A beautifully written article. Making generalizations about all women or men is not the way…especially those individuals of your own Muslim ummah. Of course the ideas and opinions expressed on this form are a healthy way of discussion and communication but demeaning ur muslim sisters or brothers is no way. The Holy Prophet SAW was gentle in his manner with the women and his humbleness and piety knew no bounds when it came to the women, and not only to the women of his household. So by disregarding the believing women and stereotyping them…you are disregarding your mothers who bear you, your wives, your sisters, and other honorable sisters of your own ummah. Do not judge all women as being the same, and vice versa it implies for the sisters as well regarding their fathers, brothers, sons, husbands, and other pious men of their ummah. Nice article about human beings in general and the persisting need to turn toward Allah (swt)

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]]> By: muslim sis http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/#comment-3109 muslim sis Thu, 07 May 2009 17:23:16 +0000 http://www.muslimahsource.org/?p=806#comment-3109 Salams, I agree with 'Someone'. Many of the reasons she cited could be why the man does not want to be intimate. But what if the woman has needs and the husband does not fulfill them. what can she do? Say if there have been no intimate relations for 3 years, how does she cope? How much patience is she required to have? It is so difficult.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-3109">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Salams,
I agree with ‘Someone’. Many of the reasons she cited could be why the man does not want to be intimate.
But what if the woman has needs and the husband does not fulfill them. what can she do? Say if there have been no intimate relations for 3 years, how does she cope?
How much patience is she required to have? It is so difficult.

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]]> By: Dawud Israel http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/#comment-1494 Dawud Israel Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:58:10 +0000 http://www.muslimahsource.org/?p=806#comment-1494 I did like your article...it's down to earth, alhamdulillah. I'd appreciate an article on your source website in regards to the following quote. I don't know if I agree, but I wanted to see what a bunch of sisters had to say... "Unfortunately muslim women are so influenced by western concepts on the "ideal man" that they forego piety and concentrate on the external factors. With more and more women involved in "careers" the men they come into contact tend to be more inclined towards secular views or even non muslim men. These women see these men as those that are more "compatible" for them at the expense of the most important issue; the completion of their Deen. It's an oxymoron when these women will say they are looking to complete half their Deen yet entertain the idea of a "moderate" or even irreligious spouse. In the end, they either compromise their beliefs which is dangerous or just end up not getting married which is a shame."<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-1494">1</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> I did like your article…it’s down to earth, alhamdulillah.

I’d appreciate an article on your source website in regards to the following quote. I don’t know if I agree, but I wanted to see what a bunch of sisters had to say…

“Unfortunately muslim women are so influenced by western concepts on the “ideal man” that they forego piety and concentrate on the external factors. With more and more women involved in “careers” the men they come into contact tend to be more inclined towards secular views or even non muslim men. These women see these men as those that are more “compatible” for them at the expense of the most important issue; the completion of their Deen. It’s an oxymoron when these women will say they are looking to complete half their Deen yet entertain the idea of a “moderate” or even irreligious spouse. In the end, they either compromise their beliefs which is dangerous or just end up not getting married which is a shame.”

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]]> By: Amin B http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/#comment-1208 Amin B Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:38:05 +0000 http://www.muslimahsource.org/?p=806#comment-1208 Well said justme jazakallah khair.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-1208">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Well said justme jazakallah khair.

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]]> By: Roberta D http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/#comment-1204 Roberta D Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:13:46 +0000 http://www.muslimahsource.org/?p=806#comment-1204 Oh I'm aware of what the term means, but was wondering how you meant it specifically, Omar. Are you just determined to add racism to your already sexist comments? It's just too bad if Oprah doesn't fit up to your idea of what a black person should be. Who are you to make that judgment call?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-1204">1</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Oh I’m aware of what the term means, but was wondering how you meant it specifically, Omar. Are you just determined to add racism to your already sexist comments? It’s just too bad if Oprah doesn’t fit up to your idea of what a black person should be. Who are you to make that judgment call?

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]]> By: WM http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/#comment-1197 WM Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:32:39 +0000 http://www.muslimahsource.org/?p=806#comment-1197 "If a women was to ask her husband to bear with her because perhaps she couldn’t bring herself to intimacy would the husband then not do so as well?" Of course he should do that! That is part of being a good husband- to put up with the faults of one's wife, to be kind to her, to understand her needs- and so on. And the same is true of the husband not being able to make the rent for a particular month. The point is that neither party is legally obligated to put up with such behaviour- but that they should, anyway, to please Allah. Think of it as a kind of nafil. I think that the problem is people (here) don't understand the issues involved, or what is at stake in these discussions. I highly recommend Kecia Ali's 'Islam & Sexual Ethics', not so much for the doctrinally-dubious conclusions of the author as for the various accounts provided of the different views out there. If you don't understand the obligation of sexual intimacy in the part of a wife- its history, the various views regarding it- than there is little point in talking. If you aren't aware of concubinage- again, little point here. Or of 'nafaqa' and what it entails- again, no point.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-1197">1</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> “If a women was to ask her husband to bear with her because perhaps she couldn’t bring herself to intimacy would the husband then not do so as well?”

Of course he should do that! That is part of being a good husband- to put up with the faults of one’s wife, to be kind to her, to understand her needs- and so on. And the same is true of the husband not being able to make the rent for a particular month. The point is that neither party is legally obligated to put up with such behaviour- but that they should, anyway, to please Allah. Think of it as a kind of nafil.

I think that the problem is people (here) don’t understand the issues involved, or what is at stake in these discussions. I highly recommend Kecia Ali’s ‘Islam & Sexual Ethics’, not so much for the doctrinally-dubious conclusions of the author as for the various accounts provided of the different views out there.

If you don’t understand the obligation of sexual intimacy in the part of a wife- its history, the various views regarding it- than there is little point in talking. If you aren’t aware of concubinage- again, little point here. Or of ‘nafaqa’ and what it entails- again, no point.

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]]> By: justme http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/#comment-1196 justme Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:03:38 +0000 http://www.muslimahsource.org/?p=806#comment-1196 We need to fear Allah in what we say about women. And if you're not even married then you're opinion as is the one who take's ahadith from books and not from scholars. This was never accepted in the past and I don't think calling women hypocrites, auoothobillah, or stereotyping our pious sisters by the actions of disbelieving women is any more acceptable in our dene. The speech of the Prophet sallahl alayhe wa salaam and the Sahabah ridwan alyahim was not controlled by their sexual desires. This is a disease that has spread in our time and in our locality because of the despicable things we see on tv, the internet, movies, etc. But do we avoid it...? If a man asked his wife to bear with him while he was failing to provide financial support his wife could do so and even help him. If a women was to ask her husband to bear with her because perhaps she couldn't bring herself to intimacy would the husband then not do so as well? If women are approached in the same way they are being spoken to on this forum do we think that for a second she's is going to be inclined to intimacy? Is not part of the blame on the man? Will the angels curse the women who is verbally insulted by her husband and then reluctant to be intimate with him, the one who may very well be staring at that nonbelieving women who do not cover, who flirt with them at work, who watch sitcoms at night with fornication, adultry and the treatment of women like chattle? Furthermore, if it's a man's right for his wife to receive him, is it not also her right that he approaches her in the right way?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-1196">1</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> We need to fear Allah in what we say about women. And if you’re not even married then you’re opinion as is the one who take’s ahadith from books and not from scholars. This was never accepted in the past and I don’t think calling women hypocrites, auoothobillah, or stereotyping our pious sisters by the actions of disbelieving women is any more acceptable in our dene. The speech of the Prophet sallahl alayhe wa salaam and the Sahabah ridwan alyahim was not controlled by their sexual desires. This is a disease that has spread in our time and in our locality because of the despicable things we see on tv, the internet, movies, etc. But do we avoid it…?

If a man asked his wife to bear with him while he was failing to provide financial support his wife could do so and even help him. If a women was to ask her husband to bear with her because perhaps she couldn’t bring herself to intimacy would the husband then not do so as well? If women are approached in the same way they are being spoken to on this forum do we think that for a second she’s is going to be inclined to intimacy? Is not part of the blame on the man? Will the angels curse the women who is verbally insulted by her husband and then reluctant to be intimate with him, the one who may very well be staring at that nonbelieving women who do not cover, who flirt with them at work, who watch sitcoms at night with fornication, adultry and the treatment of women like chattle? Furthermore, if it’s a man’s right for his wife to receive him, is it not also her right that he approaches her in the right way?

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]]> By: Omar http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/#comment-1192 Omar Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:48:18 +0000 http://www.muslimahsource.org/?p=806#comment-1192 Oreo is one who is black on the outside, but white on the inside.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-1192">1</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Oreo is one who is black on the outside, but white on the inside.

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]]> By: Amin B http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/#comment-1191 Amin B Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:01:15 +0000 http://www.muslimahsource.org/?p=806#comment-1191 Oreo refers to someone who is half black half white.lol Interracial couple have oreo children.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-1191">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Oreo refers to someone who is half black half white.lol Interracial couple have oreo children.

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]]> By: Sammer Z. http://www.muslimahsource.org/spirituality/my-sanctuary/#comment-1190 Sammer Z. Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:55:27 +0000 http://www.muslimahsource.org/?p=806#comment-1190 seems like someone has never seen shades of grey before. =/<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-1190">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> seems like someone has never seen shades of grey before. =/

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